Judge Not Unless Ye Be Straight … Not?

Posted: July 29, 2013 in homosexuality, religion
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WND links to an NBC article that I’m sure is going to be spun and re-spun and re-re-spun over the next several days. The WND headline is, “Pope on Homosexuals: ‘Who Am I to Judge?‘”

To quote the first three paragraphs of the NBC article:

Pope Francis on Monday said “who am I to judge?” gay people as he discussed one of the most divisive issues affecting the Catholic Church.

“I have yet to find anyone who has a business card that says he is gay,” the pontiff said at a press conference in which he addressed the reports of a “gay lobby” within the Vatican.

“They say they exist. If someone is gay, who searches for the Lord and has goodwill, who am I to judge?” he added. “The Catechism of the Catholic Church explains this very well. It says they should not be marginalized because of this (orientation) but that they must be integrated into society.”

After this, the Pope reiterated that the Church claims homosexual acts are a sin. The NBC article goes into more depth with this, and it’s also being reported on numerous other sites.

Given what we know of WND readers, we can of course assume that they gave positive, reassuring, Christian Love®-laden responses and messages of support. Maybe a bit negative, like “love the sinner and hate the sin,” right? And with over 100 comments just 5 hours after it was posted, I’m sure the majority are positive, right?

The top-rated comment right based on Disqus’s weird rating system is by “debtom” with 7 up- and 0 down-votes: “You judge according to God’s word which clearly states homosexuality is an abomination to God. But then, I wouldn’t expect anything else from the Pope and the Catholic Church,”

The top-upped comment is from “Bossman22” with 14 up and 3 down who states: “It was homosexual pedophile priests who brought shame and disgrace to the Catholic church and you, the POPE, don’t feel qualified to judge homosexuality? Have you learned nothing? Do you read the Bible?”

“benthedog” with 6 up and 0 down states: “I’m not a Catholic, but I am extremely disappointed and disillusioned that a person with the power to control the Catholic church would whitewash the homosexual issue when infiltrated homosexuals have done so much damage.”

Numerous others are quoting Bible verses (which for some reason I keep wanting to write as “versus”).

At least some people seem to actually know the whole Bible and not just the anti-gay parts. “theoreosview” has a four-paragraph preamble but then simply ends with this: “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. I see, there are many rocks already in the air heading toward the Pope and the Church.” They have 5 up-votes and 3 down.

If I had to guess, the Pope’s comments will be re-interpreted to emphasize that he’s saying it’s up to God to judge, not people.

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Comments
  1. Well, he said it on a plane where the curia couldn’t just grab him and drag him off-stage. I expect to see “clarifications” that it was not “ex cathedra” as an airplane seat is not “a chair”.

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