Posts Tagged ‘bigot’

This news made me smile because I knew that World Net Daily commenters were going to have a hissy fit: 379 different corporations that do business within America filed a friend-of-the-court brief with the US Supreme Court (SCOTUS) stating that the bans on marriage equality should be voided as unconstitutional. WND reported it in a 3-paragraph snippet from Huffington Post entitled, “379 Companies Urge Supremes to Support ‘Gay Marriage.'” I can guarantee you that the “Gay Marriage” in scary quotes was not in the original. Actually, they reworded the original title, which was “Here Are The 379 Companies Urging The Supreme Court To Support Same-Sex Marriage.”

Just for fun, let’s list them:

  • A.L. Nella & Company, LLP, CPAs
  • A.T. Kearney
  • Aardema Whitelaw, PLLC
  • Acacia Home LLC
  • Accenture
  • Aetna Inc.
  • Air Products and Chemicals, Inc.
  • AJ Leo Electric and Solar
  • Akamai Technologies, Inc.
  • Alaska Airlines
  • Alcoa Inc.
  • Amazon Services Inc.
  •, Inc.
  • American Airlines Group Inc.
  • American Apparel
  • American Express Company
  • American International Group, Inc.
  • Aparicio-Mercado Law, L.C.
  • Apple Inc.
  • AppNexus Inc.
  • Aramark
  • Arbor Brewing Company, LLC
  • Arnold & Porter LLP
  • Aspen Skiing Company
  • Assemble Sound LLC
  • AT&T Inc.
  • Atlas Cut Stone
  • Atticus Circle
  • The Austin Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Avanade Inc.
  • Bain & Company, Inc.
  • Bakehouse Art Complex
  • Baker & McKenzie LLP
  • Bank of America
  • The Bank of New York Mellon Corporation
  • Barclays
  • Barnes & Noble, Inc.
  • bebe stores, inc.
  • Becton, Dickinson and Company
  • Belcampo Inc.
  • Ben & Jerry’s
  • Big Duck Studio, Inc.
  • Bigelow Villa LLC
  • Billy’s Farm
  • BlackRock, Inc.
  • Bloomberg L.P.
  • Blue Apron, Inc.
  • Blue Heron Ventures
  • Blue Moon Hotel / Winter Haven Hotel
  • Blume, Faulkner & Skeen, PLLC
  • Boehringer Ingelheim Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
  • Boston Community Capital, Inc.
  • Boston Consulting Group
  • The Boston Foundation
  • Boston Medical Center Corporation
  • Boston Scientific Corporation
  • Brady Mills LLC
  • BrandQuery LLC
  • Bristol-Myers Squibb Company
  • Broadcom Corporation
  • Brocade
  • Cablevision Systems Corporation
  • Capital One Financial Corporation
  • Captain Wendell’s Marine Services LLC
  • Cardinal Health, Inc.
  • Care Resource
  • CBS Corporation
  • CEB
  • Central Physical Therapy and Fitness, PSC
  • CGI
  • Charlotte Business Guild
  • The Chubb Corporation
  • CIGNA Corporation
  • Cisco Systems, Inc.
  • Citigroup Inc.
  • City Catering Company
  • City Lites Neon, Inc.
  • The City of Ann Arbor, Michigan
  • Civitas Public Affairs Group
  • Clean Yield Asset Management
  • CloudFlare, Inc.
  • CMIT Solutions of Seattle Downtown
  • The Coca-Cola Company
  • Cohen & Associates
  • Colgate-Palmolive Company
  • Columbia FunMap, Inc.
  • Comcast Corporation
  • The Computer Butler
  • ConAgra Foods, Inc.
  • The Corcoran Group
  • Corner Brewery, LLC
  • Corning Incorporated
  • Cox Enterprises, Inc.
  • Crazy Misfits Pet Services
  • Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
  • Cummins Inc.
  • Cupcake Royale
  • CVS Health Corporation
  • Dallas Voice
  • Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Inc.
  • Danaher Corporation
  • David J. Jarrett, P.C.
  • David Kosar Insurance Agency
  • David Mack Henderson Income Tax Preparation
  • DCI Group AZ, L.L.C.
  • Deloitte LLP
  • Delta Air Lines, Inc.
  • Depository Trust & Clearing Corporation
  • The Desert Business Association
  • Deutsche Bank AG
  • Diageo North America, Inc.
  • DocuSign
  • Domini Social Investments LLC
  • The Dow Chemical Company
  • Dreamcatcher Arts and Publishing Ltd.
  • Dropbox, Inc.
  • DuPont
  • eBay Inc.
  • Edelman
  • Eldercare Consulting
  • Electronic Arts Inc.
  • EnduringHydro, LLC
  • Ernst & Young LLP
  • The Estée Lauder Companies Inc.
  • Event Rents
  • Everything Real Estate LLC
  • Express Movers Inc.
  • Facebook, Inc.
  • Farella Braun + Martel, LLP
  • Fastsigns
  • Fenwick & West LLP
  • First Data Corporation
  • 1st Security Bank
  • 1stdibs.Com, Inc.
  • FIT Technologies
  • Flanery CPA
  • Full Court Press Communications
  • G.A.W., Inc.
  • The Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce Nevada
  • General Electric Company
  • General Mills, Inc.
  • Gensler
  • Gilt Groupe Holdings, Inc.
  • GlaxoSmithKline LLC
  • Gleason & Associates Claims Services
  • Go Factory, Inc.
  • Goethel Engelhardt, PLLC
  • The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc.
  • Google Inc.
  • Goulston & Storrs, P.C.
  • Great Officiants LLC
  • The Greater Connecticut Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Greater San Diego Business Association
  • Greater Seattle Business Association
  • Greensulate
  • Grossman Marketing Group
  • Group Health Cooperative
  • Groupon
  • Growing Hope
  • Harrell Remodeling
  • The Hartford Financial Services Group, Inc.
  • Healthline
  • Hewlett-Packard Company
  • Hilton Worldwide Holdings Inc.
  • Holdredge Wines
  • Homeward Pet Adoption Center
  • Horizon Air Industries, Inc.
  • House Packard LLC
  • HSBC
  • Ikard Wynne LLP
  • The Independence Business Alliance
  • The Inland Northwest Business Alliance
  • Insala, Ltd
  • Inspirato, LLC
  • Integrated Archive Systems, Inc.
  • Integrity Law Group
  • Intel Corporation
  • Intuit Inc.
  • INUS Group, LLC
  • Jackson Hole Group LLC
  • Jagod Designs
  • Jazz Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
  • Jenn T. Grace International LLC
  • Jennifer Brown Consulting
  • JetBlue Airways Corporation
  • The Jim Henson Company
  • Johnson & Johnson
  • Johnston, Kinney and Zulaica LLP
  • Jonathan L. Bowman, Attorney at Law, PS
  • JPMorgan Chase & Co.
  • Julian Chang Consulting, Inc.
  • photography
  • The Kathy A. Janssen Foundation
  • Kazan, McClain, Satterley, & Greenwood, PLC
  • Keir Jones Agency – State Farm
  • Keker & Van Nest LLP
  • KEO Marketing Inc.
  • Kimberly-Clark Corp.
  • Kimpton Hotel & Restaurant Group, LLC
  • Kollmar Sheet Metal Works, Inc.
  • Kotzan Chiropractic
  • Lambda Business Association
  • Laparoscopic Institute for Gynecologic Oncology
  • Larson Marketing & Communications LLC
  • Laughton Properties
  • Law Offices of Joel L. Sogol
  • Law Office of Lisa E. Schuchman
  • Law Office of Lorie L. Burch, PC
  • Law Offices of Robin L. Bodiford, P.A.
  • The Law Office of Susan K. Fuller, PLLC
  • Levi Strauss & Co.
  • Liberty Burger
  • Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP
  • Life & Love Celebrations
  • Link in the Chain Foundation, Inc.
  • Littler Mendelson, P.C.
  • LNT, Inc.
  • The Long Beach Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Lori Karbal et al
  • Loring, Wolcott & Coolidge Trust, LLC
  • The Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Main Street Hair Shoppe Ltd.
  • Marriott International, Inc.
  • Marsh & McLennan Companies, Inc.
  • Massachusetts Mutual Life Insurance Company
  • McGraw Hill Financial, Inc.
  • McKesson Corporation
  • McKinsey & Company, Inc.
  • Merca Property Management
  • The Miami-Dade Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Microsoft Corporation
  • The Mid-America Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Miller & Olson, LLP
  • Miller Shelton Group, LLC
  • MillerCoors LLC
  • Mintz, Levin, Cohn, Ferris, Glovsky and Popeo, P.C.
  • Mona Smith PLLC
  • Moody’s Corporation
  • Morgan Miller Plumbing
  • Morgan Stanley
  • MWW Public Relations
  • NAMI Dallas, Inc.
  • The Nashville LGBT Chamber of Commerce
  • The National Gay & Lesbian Chamber of Commerce
  • Nationwide Mutual Insurance Company
  • Neumann Capital Management, LLC
  • The New England Patriots
  • New Leaf Columbus
  • New York Life Insurance Company
  • Nifty Hoops, LLC
  • NIKE, Inc.
  • Nixon Peabody LLP
  • North Texas GLBT Chamber of Commerce
  • Northrop Grumman Corporation
  • OBOX Solutions
  • Office Depot, Inc.
  • The Ogilvy Group, Inc.
  • Ogletree, Deakins, Nash, Smoak & Stewart, P.C.
  • ONE Community Media, LLC
  • 1 Source Consulting Solutions
  • Oracle America, Inc.
  • Orbitz Worldwide, Inc.
  • Out & Equal Workplace Advocates
  • Outerwall Inc.
  • Pakmode Publications, LLC
  • d/b/a Pakmode Media + Marketing
  • Pandora Media, Inc.
  • PATH
  • Peabody & Arnold LLP
  • Pepper Hamilton LLP
  • PepsiCo
  • Pfizer Inc.
  • Pixelligent Technologies LLC
  • Plexus Education Foundation
  • Plexus LGBT and Allied Chamber of Commerce
  • Portland Area Business Association
  • PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP
  • PrideFest
  • The PrintingWorks
  • Pro-Tec Data, Inc.
  • Procter & Gamble
  • ProTrials Research, Inc.
  • Prudential Financial, Inc.
  • Puma Spring Vineyards
  • Qualcomm Incorporated
  • Quorum
  • RAFI Architecture and Design
  • Rainbow Chamber of Commerce Silicon Valley
  • Ralph’s Regal Weddings
  • Ray Holley Communications
  • RBC Capital Markets, LLC
  • Replacements, Ltd.
  • Restaurant Management Concepts
  • Reverberate! Marketing Communications, Inc.
  • Rising Tide Brewing Company
  • RJR Photography
  • Robert H Stutz Jr CPA
  • Rockwell Automation, Inc.
  • Rotella & Hernandez, LLC
  • The Sacramento Rainbow Chamber of Commerce
  • Sadek Bonahoom PLC
  • The San Francisco Chamber of Commerce
  • The San Francisco Giants
  • The Seattle Lesbian, LLC
  • Seattle Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce
  • Sempra Energy
  • Seyfarth Shaw LLP
  • Shingles Roofing LLC
  • Sidetrack, Inc.
  • Simon, Schindler & Sandberg LLP
  • Skellenger Bender, P.S.
  • Skyworks Solutions, Inc.
  • Sleeves Up Productions, LLC
  • Sōw
  • Spectra Law PS
  • Spry Vision, Inc.
  • St. Jude Medical, Inc.
  • Staples, Inc.
  • Starbucks Corporation
  • Starrtek LLC
  • State Street Corporation
  • Steven Graves Insurance Agency
  • Stonewall Behavioral Health
  • Stonewall Columbus
  • Stuffed Cakes, LLC
  • Sun Life Financial (U.S.) Services Company, Inc.
  • SunDaily
  •, Inc.
  • Sweet Dixie Kitchen
  • Symantec Corporation
  • Taber Food Services, Inc.
  • dba Hobee’s California Restaurants
  • The Tampa Bay Rays
  • Target Corporation
  • TD Bank, N.A.
  • TD Securities (USA) LLC
  • Tech Data Corporation
  • TestTracks
  • Thinking Cap Communications & Design
  • Third Point LLC
  • Thomson Reuters
  • Tiwary Entertainment Group LLC
  • TNT Promotions, LLC
  • TOCA Events, LLC
  • TravelOut, Inc.
  • Tutta Bella Neapolitan Pizzeria
  • Twitter, Inc.
  • 206 Inc.
  • UBS AG
  • The Ultimate Software Group, Inc.
  • United Air Lines, Inc.
  • United Therapeutics Corporation
  • Uptown Physicians Group
  • VCB Consulting & Accounting Services
  • Verizon Communications Inc.
  • Viacom Inc.
  • Visa Inc.
  • VitaPerk
  • VMware, Inc.
  • W. M. Martin Advertising
  • W.W. Grainger, Inc.
  • W/S Development Associates LLC
  • Walsh Wellness Center
  • The Walt Disney Company
  • Wasserman Media Group
  • Wells Fargo & Company
  • Whey Natural! USA LLC
  • Wisconsin LGBT Chamber of Commerce
  • Witeck Communications, Inc.
  • The Workplace Equality Index
  • Wyndham Worldwide Corporation
  • Xerox Corporation
  • Xfund
  • Ypsilanti Downtown Development Authority
  • Zausmer, Kaufman, August & Caldwell, P.C.
  • Zingerman’s Community of Businesses
  • ZoomSystems
  • Zynga Inc.

It’s a lot. And the story has garnered 255 comments. The top-rated comments are all about how they now have a list of 379 companies they will be boycotting, such as “Just Me” who wrote quite literally that: “I have a list of 379 companies I will be boycotting.” Others are perhaps more peripheral, just generally ranting about The Gays getting married.

But what’s funny about this is that you cannot possibly live in modern society and boycott all these companies.

Do you own a computer? Well, you cannot run Windows or Mac operating systems or even Chrome. I guess you’re stuck with Linux or Unix. And that’s ignoring the hardware. Obviously Apple is still out, but so is Intel (which makes most CPUs) and Hewlett-Packard. (Make sure your printer isn’t an HP!) Social networking is also out, for both Facebook and Twitter are on the list.

What about a smart phone? If it’s an iPhone, throw it away, you’re stuck with something like Samsung, but make sure it doesn’t have an Intel CPU.

Does your job use any sort of computer security? Chances are it’s Cicsco-based, so you have to stop working because Cisco is on the list. They also make much of the equipment that runs the internet.

Television? The biggest television providers are on the list, including Comcast and Direct TV.

What about air travel? Delta, United, American, Alaska Air, JetBlue … they’re on the list.

What about a credit card? Visa and American Express are both on the list, so you’re stuck with MasterCard, Discover, or some less recognized company, but be careful about the bank it’s through because Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley are both on the list, as is even the Deutsche Bank.

If you’ve managed to convince yourself you can still use a computer and the internet, well, you won’t be able to use the largest internet stores: Amazon and eBay are both on the list.

Office supplies needed? Well, Office Depot, Staples, and Target are on the list.

You may even be forced to throw out some of your clothes, for companies like American Apparel and Levi are on the list.

So, that’s what you’re faced with if you want to be a bigot today and boycott all the companies that support allowing gays to be married. And I just barely touched the list, but I tried to think of things that most people do. In general, though, you’re screwed.

As I said in my post two days ago, Monday would be interesting in Alabama with all the legal stuff (and, I would argue, illegal stuff) going on. I think the headlines are what really tell much of the story.

From World Net Daily, we have these, all written by Anti-Homo-in-Chief Bob Unruh (all comment counts are preliminary since these are less than 24 hours old):

*This story has gone through at least four different headlines. The first was, “Drastic Measure Taken on ‘Gay’ Marriage.” The second, I didn’t copy down. The third was “Supremes Won’t Stop ‘Gay’ Marriage,” and the last one I saw was “Alabama Begins Marrying ‘Gay’ Couples.”

And, I have lots of headlines from other news outlets, including many from blogger Joe Jervis at “Joe.My.God” or “JMG” for short. These are in temporal order, starting late Sunday night, and by reading the headlines, you’ll be able to tell a lot of what happened.

That is a lot of news coverage. To try to summarize for y’all who don’t want to even skim that list, there was a basic sequence of events:

  1. Judge Roy Moore on Sunday night sent a letter to all probate court judges telling them NOT to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. He stated in the letter that the Governor could take action against them if they did, though the Governor’s office said they had no idea what Moore was talking about. Because, you know, The Bible. And Icky Stuff.

    “The U.S. district courts have no power or authority to redefine marriage. Once you start redefining marriage, that’s the ultimate power. Would it overturn the laws of incest? Bigamy? Polygamy? How far do they go? A lot of states in this union have caved to such unlawful authority, and this is not one This is Alabama. We don’t give up the recognition that law has bounds. I disagree with standing in the schoolhouse door to prevent blacks from getting equal education. We’re talking about a constitutional amendment to preserve the recognition that marriage is one man and one woman, as it has been for centuries.” – Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore, speaking this afternoon to NBC News.

  2. This created a patchwork of counties in Alabama that were offering licenses to everyone (few), offering licenses only to opposite-sex couples (more), or none at all (most).

    Alabama Counties Status of Marriage Licenses, February 10, 2015

    Alabama Counties Status of Marriage Licenses, February 10, 2015

  3. The Governor came out and said that he wasn’t going to do anything against probate judges who followed Moore’s directive or who followed the Federal court’s directive. But he did NOT want to be compared to Gov. George Wallace who, half a century ago, stood in the way of National Guard troops after the Federal courts ruled against desegregation. (This comparison was being made a lot yesterday.)

    Gov. Robert Bentley, a Republican and a Southern Baptist, said he believes strongly that marriage is between one man and one woman, but that the issue should be “worked out through the proper legal channels” and not through defiance of the law. The governor noted that Alabama is about to be in the spotlight again with the 50th anniversary of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which was passed after civil rights marchers were attacked and beaten in Selma, Alabama — events chronicled in the Oscar-nominated movie “Selma.” “I don’t want Alabama to be seen as it was 50 years ago when a federal law was defied. I’m not going to do that,” Bentley said in an exclusive interview with The Associated Press.

  4. Some judges refusing to comply with the the Federal order were mocked.
    Alabama Probate Judge Refusing to Follow the US Constitution

    Alabama Probate Judge Refusing to Follow the US Constitution

  5. Others were sued, but the Federal judge did nothing:

    Probate Judge Don Davis is not a party in this case and the Order of January 23, 2015, did not directly order Davis to do anything. Judge Davis’s obligation to follow the Constitution does not arise from this court’s Order. The Clarification Order noted that actions against Judge Davis or others who fail to follow the Constitution could be initiated by persons who are harmed by their failure to follow the law. However, no such action is before the Court at this time.

  6. So, the actual plaintiffs are now suing.

That’s kinda where we are today, or as of noon today. I could talk about a lot of issues here. Including Judge Moore making many of his arguments on Facebook, and then deleting them, like the one below.

One of Roy Moore's Rants on Facebook that Were Deleted

One of Roy Moore’s Rants on Facebook that Were Deleted

Or that this is a huge case of judicial activism, which I thought conservatives were against. Or questions about authority, and whether Moore actually has any authority over probate judges. Or the apt or inapt comparisons to George Wallace. Or that in the refusal of the Supreme Court of the United States to grant a stay of the Federal judge’s order could be interpreted (by Justice Thomas’ own remarks) as the tacit admission that that is how the Supreme Court will rule later this year.

Instead, I think I’ll just point out the real effect here: In all this posturing, to try to uphold their religion (and let’s be honest: There is no reason to be against this other than religion, and it’s what’s been the focus of all Moore’s (and others’) arguments), they are hurting real people. People who love each other and just want the recognition of the state that opposite-sex couples have always enjoyed. This isn’t just some vague issue. It’s a real one with real victims.

Lots of travel in the next two weeks, so expect me to try to catch up on some posts while 35,000-40,000 ft in the air.

First up, we have an update on Gordon Klingenschmitt. I tried to capture the idea behind the man in the title of this post. He is a religious bigot of the extreme kind, having been fired from the Navy chaplaincy program due to his statements and actions against homosexuals and non-Christians. Well, that and this: “It was in 2006 when WND reported Klingenschmitt was dismissed from the Navy when he insisted his religious-freedom rights allowed him to pray “in Jesus name,” which conflicted with Navy policy requiring chaplains not to reference Jesus in their prayers.”

He runs a weekly radio program that spouts his beliefs including statements about how gays are demon-possessed (but don’t worry, he is able to cast those demons out and cure lesbians).

And, he was voted into the Colorado statehouse as a Representative in our last election. During his candidacy, he wouldn’t even agree to meet with concerned prospective constituents unless they paid for body guards because he was afraid of attack. So much for representatives being accessible.

Okay, so that takes care of Michael Carl’s WND story from November 8, 2014: “Navy Chaplain Who Fought for Prayer Elected in Colorado.”

That aside, the story a month later came from Bob Unruh: “Lesbian Judge Takes on Jesus in Court.” Ummm …. huh? That headline is just stupid and gives you no idea what’s going on. In fact, I only found it after reading Right Wing Watch’s story: “WND: Klingenschmitt Lost Because the Judge Was a Lesbian!” Okay, now at least I know what the real point of the story is.

But here’s how Bob (who gets most of the anti-gay stories on WND) decided to spin it. Starting from the beginning:

An openly lesbian federal judge whose appointment was opposed by dozens of U.S. senators has ruled against a Christian former Navy chaplain who alleged his superiors engineered his dismissal from the service because he was not “ecumenical.”

The decision by Elaine Kaplan of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims rejected the allegations of former chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt, who recently was elected to the Colorado House of Representatives.

He had routinely prayed “in Jesus name” as part of his work as a chaplain.

The next five paragraphs are about how the Judge was opposed “by 35 GOP senators” and more about her being a lesbian. Oh, and almost inconsequentially, the next paragraph states, “Klingenschmitt told WND he likely will appeal the decision.”

This story has 1028 comments, with the highly rated ones being as you would expect for fear of The Gays. And I do mean fear, which I don’t normally use when I disagree with other people. But, when you have “El_Sluggo” writing, “Let’s face it. The entire LGBT movement is a demonic ideology based purely on the rejection of and a hatred for God.” Well, I’d say that’s fear of the demonic and fear of rejecting this particular person’s particular interpretation of the Christian God.

This story got a lot of play about ten days ago, such that I saw it on a lot of websites, including WND. The story is brought to you by the words “Christian Love™” and “Equal Access to Public Accommodations/Businesses.” The idea is that the law in most states in the US states that a business that offers its services to the public cannot discriminate based on numerous things, including sexuality. But, Masterpiece Cake Shop, owned by Jack Phillips, in Lakewood, CO, did just that. And now, Judge Robert Spencer, has ruled that Mr. Phillips broke the law and cannot discriminate based on sexual orientation, despite his desire to because he’s a Christian and, well, Jesus.

Let’s get all the links out of the way now that you have that intro:

I’m sure you know what I think of this issue by this point. I will make one observation and then skip to the WND commentary. Fifty years ago, this happened with segregation in the southern United States. “Separate but Equal” was not equal. If you provide a public service, if you are a business open to the public, it was decided that you cannot discriminate based on the color of someone’s skin. Doing so in most places in the United States (or around the world) would be considered ridiculous, but fifty years ago, it was just a given, and in many cases it was based on someone’s interpretation of their religious text(s). To me, this is the exact same thing. Discriminating based on whether one likes to get frisky with a member of the opposite or same gender is discrimination, and if we have a non-discrimination law on the books, religion does not offer you a get-out-of-lawsuit-free card. Yes, you are a private business, but you offer a public service. And I think my thoughts on this have changed a bit over the last several months or years.

On the other had, if there isn’t a law on the books about it, then you’re free to discriminate. And the rest of us are free to point out what a bigot you are.

On the third hand, if you know that the baker, or the butcher, or the candlestick maker, or whomever else is a bigot but still required by law to serve you, why would you want to go to them? I’d be afraid of a drop of arsenic in my cake, or spittle. Or that my wedding photos would look like crap. Or my candlesticks would be mostly air.

All that in mind, we have WND. Which of course is against The Gay. There’s a reason that the baker, Mr. Phillips, is being (was being) interviewed by FOX “news” almost exclusively. Mr. Minor has started out his piece with, “Another judge has ruled homosexuals have a right not to be offended that supersedes First Amendment religious rights.” No, it’s not that we don’t have the right to not be offended (try reminding Christians of that these days), it’s that you are a business open to the public, you must comply with public anti-discrimination laws.

Meanwhile, Mr. Newcombe started out his story this way: “The ACLU is busy chipping away at religious freedom in our country again. They have successfully brought suit in the Denver area to force a Christian cake-maker to violate his own beliefs or face a fine. This story is becoming increasingly common, where a Christian baker, florist or photographer in good conscience cannot support the homosexual lifestyle. Yet the authorities are forcing them to violate their conscience or lose their livelihood.”

The first WND story has 29 ratings (4.07/5 stars) but a massive 656 comments. The latter has 10 ratings (4.10/5 stars) and a relatively minuscule 31 comments. I’m not going to bother with the first one’s comments, they’re what you’d predict. We can just look at the top-rated one (23 up, 0 down votes) by “Cahal the Mad™” to get a sampling: “No made up “civil rights/gay rights” will ever trump the Constitution The so-called “judge” is a leftist hack who is in violation. Watch how much support gays get now, when people see that their own rights are meaningless when compared to the ultra-selfish whining of hate-filled homos.”

Okay, now that that’s over with, what’s fascinating is the second one. It, as with another post I recently did, seems to have been hijacked by normal people. Take “Patrick” who has the highest-rated comment with 4 up-votes and 0 down-votes:

I think you’d set a very dangerous precedent by accepting this man’s argument. It would basically exempt anyone from any law just because their religion said they didn’t have to listen to it. There’s already the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, which just started as a joke. If we let anyone ignore any law regulating commerce, how long would it be until the Church of No Taxes sprung up?

“Jack” has the second-highest with 3 up and 1 down vote:

It’s very simple, Jerry. Colorado law doesn’t allow businesses to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation: “It is a discriminatory practice and unlawful for a person, directly or indirectly, to refuse, withhold from, or deny to an individual or a group, because of disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry, the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations.”

So Phillips can either do business with the public or he can refuse to serve gay customers. He cannot do both. Religious beliefs don’t give someone license to ignore the law, no matter how loud a tantrum he throws.

Just curious: would you have the same reaction if a baker who was religiously opposed to heterosexuality refused to bake a wedding cake for a straight couple?

Every other comment but three are in response to him. I will end this lengthy report with the last comment (“girl” with no votes) and response (“Andrew Patton” with 1 up and 0 down votes):

“He can’t violate his conscience in order to collect a paycheck. … If Jack can’t make wedding cakes he can’t continue to support his family.”
What a whiny little ***! “If I can’t cheat at CandyLand I’m just going to flip the board and go home and cry – and YOU should feel about trying to make play by the rules!”

We Christians do not whine, but we will assert our rights. We have the right to work to support our families, and we have the right to obey our God without the State interfering. If the State violates our rights, we will defy the State even to the death, for it is not only our right but our duty to do so.

Why end with that? Because I love that statement about how “Christians do not whine.” Read probably half the posts on this site and you’ll see Christians whining. Or, well, even this post!

Edited to Add (January 23, 2014): WND keeps the story alive, this time with a post by its anti-gay anchor, Bob Unruh: “State ‘Imposing’ Its ‘Gay’ Beliefs on Cake Artist.”

Edited to Add (June 16, 2014): Perhaps we’ve seen the end of this case, for Jack Phillips was found in violation of the anti-discrimination rules by the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, and on June 1, 2014, WND put out a story copied from CBS News: “Colorado Baker to Stop Making Wedding Cakes.” And, two days earlier (but for some reason later in my archive), on May 30, Bob Unruh wrote: “Christian Baker Ordered to Endorse Same-Sex ‘Wedding.'”

This is one of those articles that just makes me pissed at the human race: “60 Injured at ‘Gay’-Pride March.” Basically, a gay pride parade happened in Podgorica (in Montenegro) and 1500 anti-gay rioters tried to cause (and succeeded in causing) trouble, when they clashed with hundreds of police who were protecting the marchers. Only 60 were arrested, and the marchers had to be evacuated in police cars to a safe place. So much for a civilized society.

The WND article right now has 3 ratings (published a day ago) with an average score of 3.67/5. It has 56 very anti-gay comments:

  • “timbo” has 14 up-votes and 0 down-votes: “anti-gay extremists”? C’mon, they were only trying to flush the crap. That is what you do when the toilet is full and stinks, isn’t it?”
  • “kingdad” has 19 up-votes and 2 down-votes: “Sad and Pathetic actions by the Police of a so-called Conservative nation. Gays, etc. bring nothing but STDs, AIDS/HIV and Trouble. Just look around the world and see the increased Healthcare costs of members of these groups.”
  • “Snod” has 8 up-votes and 0 down-votes: “Keep trying to force deviant behavior down people’s throats and more violence will occur.”
  • “PridebeforetheFall” has 10 up-votes and 1 down-vote: “I pray for those living under the lie “born this way.” It is an insidious lie that was created to remove personal responsibility from choosing to live a life of sin, worse yet it leaves individuals believing one day they will stand before God and blame Him for their being gay. Homosexuality is a choice, if it were not there would be no use of the term “ex-gay” for those who have seen the light.”

“Sebastian” tried to respond to “Snod”‘s comment and got 5 down-votes for his trouble: “Because violence is the “Christian” response right? Do as Jesus would, love thy neighbor and all that…. riiiiiiiiight…. looks like the people on this board will be the ones answering to God on judgment day.”

Why am I writing about this and copying these kinds of ignorant and bigoted Christian Love™ responses? Because this is the main reason that I created this blog: To point out what these people say (so you don’t have to comb through them for yourself) because, while these people are fringe, they have sway in politics and elections and some (clearly, per this article’s reporting) are prone to violence. Knowledge is power, and knowing that these people exist is important.

Err, majority. Yeah, that’s right.

This World Net Daily link to a FOX “News” story is entitled, “Airmen Say U.S. Air Force Punishing Christians.” To quote:

“There is an atmosphere of intimidation at Lackland Air Force Base,” said Steve Branson, the pastor of Village Parkway Baptist Church in San Antonio. “Gay commanders and officers are pushing their agenda on the airmen. There is a culture of fear in the military and it’s gone to a new level with the issue of homosexuality.”

Branson tells me at least 80 airmen attended a private meeting at the church where he heard them voice their concerns about religious hostilities at the Air Force base. It was a standing-room only crowd.

“The religious persecution is happening,” the pastor said. “It’s getting bigger every day. Gay and lesbian airmen can talk about their lifestyle, but the rest have to stay completely quiet about what they believe.”

Ah yes, it’s ’cause of The Gay. I think I should give my standard statement on this again: Replace “gay” with “black.” Or “Chinese.” So, “Black airmen can talk about their lifestyle, but the rest have to stay completely quiet about what they believe.” How ludicrous does that sound? Very. If you want to be a bigot, you’re going to be punished in an organization that does not allow you to be a bigot.

Of course, the nearly 100 commenters have a different view than I. Let’s just take the top-rated one by “Annette”:

There should be a huge public outcry about this! They need to have all kinds of pressure put on them from the outside. Those who don’t have anything to lose (ie. are not in the military) should be writing letters, protesting, and doing whatever it takes to show these bullies that their INTOLERANCE is not acceptable!

Christians are so used to just being quiet and letting this kind of thing happen. Why is it that we are in this situation now? Because the homosexual movement has been so vocal and persistent. I think they need a little bit of their own medicine.

Yeah, intolerance. Uh huh. And Christians used to “being quiet and letting this kind of thing happen”? Seriously? Really? I think a reality check is needed.

I had just posted my, “Forced Out of Business Because of The Gays,” when I realized that I had missed a second article from WND about the same subject: “Christians Facing ‘Hunger’ After ‘Gay’-Rights Battle.”

It’s the same drivel except goes into a few more quotes, such as this nice bit: “The Bulls told the Mail they are being forced to sell their nine-bed facility because last winter they “were actually shivering and were hungry.”” Either that’s hyperbole or they were stupid and didn’t find supplementary income. Or ask someone to come in and review the place to figure out why no one was coming (see my previous post on it).

At the moment, five days after it was posted, it has 214 comments. I was initially just going to post it as an “Edited to Add” to the previous post, but then I saw this WND story by Bob Unruh: “Facebook OKs ‘Jesus F–ing Christ’” and, knowing what WND is all about, I couldn’t resist the irony. So you get a tag-team post for today.

So let’s review: The first story is about how these Poor Innocent Christians® who were just practicing Christian Love™ by telling gays they couldn’t stay at their bed and breakfast but were fined over it and told they had to provide equal access are now going to lose their business because no one wants to stay with the bigots who don’t know how to clean. (That’s me paraphrasing the article.) Meanwhile, WND is clearly bemoaning the idea that religious freedom AND freedom of expression are dying out because they’re being forced to tolerate The Gay. (Someone from the UK please enlighten me — do you actually have guarantees of freedom of expression/speech and religion?) For example, the top-rated comment is from “Springdale” who wrote, “Another of increasing examples of not only the intolerance of the homosexual movement and their fellow travelers, but of their persecution of those who adhere to Christian values.”

I don’t think I’d get any argument by stating as a matter of fact that World Net Daily portends to value freedom of speech and (Christian) religion.

Which is why Unruh’s post is deliciously ironic, and it even contains an “Editor’s Note: The following report includes explicit language and links containing statements that may offend some readers.” Here are the first five paragraphs:

Just imagine, you have a family friendly Facebook page and are happy for others to join the conversation and interact.

Then someone comes along, creates a Facebook identity using the most filthy language imaginable – such as “Jesus F—ing Christ. Slut Mary’s Bastard” – and starts posting on your page as “liking” the various items.

Suddenly, children are exposed, adults are hurt and people question your own integrity and values.

Then you learn Facebook has approved the group’s name and refuses to remove its page.

That’s apparently what’s happening to the group called The Center for Marriage Policy, which believes the failure of traditional marriages in the United States “is the primary driver of America’s self-compounding intergenerational socioeconomic and governance problems.”

The horror! Oh, wait — weren’t you guys just posting an article where you were trumpeting an idea that freedom of speech was being squelched? And here you’re clearly angry that someone is exercising their freedom of speech? It just so happens that it’s against your religion, mocking it.

The comments are what you’d expect so are not worth going into. I just wanted to do this post because I think it displays, yet again, the hypocracy of screeching about how your “freedoms” are being trampled on because you’re having a harder time legally being a bigot, while at the same time you’re yelling about people using those very freedoms in such a way that offends you and you want those freedoms taken away from them. It’s a two-way street, suckers.

Another from the backlog is the story about college football analyst Craig James, and that he was fired by FOX over anti-gay comments. How you bill that story is up to you. For WND, the headline was, “Famous Sportscaster Fired for Anti-‘Gay’ Comments.” In most other places, such as Edge: New England, we get the headline, “Fox Drops Sports Broadcaster Craig James for Anti-Gay Remarks.”

See a bit of difference there? Besides the usual need to put ‘gay’ in single quotes, WND inserted the adjective “famous” in the title that most other news outlets did not. In doing so, they have elevated James and made this even more of an outrageous offense by the Big Gay lobby group.

The quote in question is this, made during a GOP primary debate when James was criticizing Dallas Mayor Tom Leppert for riding in a gay pride parade: “I think right now in this country, our moral fiber is sliding down a slope that is going to be hard to stop if we don’t stand up with leaders who don’t go ride in gay parades. I can assure you I will never ride in a gay parade.” He continued, “I think that you have to make that choice. But in that case right there, they are going to have to answer to the Lord for their actions. We should not give benefits to those civil unions.”

My commentary is that even Fox, about as right-wing as the Daily Mail is tabloid journalism, recognizes that a growing number of people support same-sex rights and are not bigots. Sure, Fox still have plenty of bigots on staff that get daily speaking spots. But even Fox recognizes that if they continue, they’re going to lose – or at least not gain – any viewers. And if it’s not a major loss to the network to not have one extra sportscaster, then get rid of him.

Or, you could go the way of WND commenters like “Pi10107” who wrote, “No more freedom of speech for the moral people.”

Or “SATCitizen” who doesn’t realize that the right to free speech exists, but that people have a right to execute consequences in reaction to that free speech: “Discrimination is Craig James’ First Amendment rights being trampled on by those who can’t stand to hear the truth. That’s why all of this is a sad day in heII.”

Edited to Add (Oct. 9, 2013): It appears as though James is suing FOX to get his job back. He gave a very lengthy interview to WND, and it was published with the headline, “Fired Sports Star Unleashes on FOX” (probably not the best way to make them like you again). I don’t know any details of the lawsuit or if its even been filed, but I would guess he will be very unsuccessful. In the US, we do not have a right to work or a right for a company to not fire you.

I held off writing on this topic for a few days because I wanted to see how far it went. Not too far, mainly just being reported by the ultra-conservative and the LGBT press. WND didn’t bother to do an article on it, instead linking to a KGW article that they titled, “Bakery that Denied Lesbian Wedding Cake Closes.” Bit of bad grammar there — I’m not sure how a wedding cake can be lesbian, gay, bi, trans, or str8.

That aside, the facts in the case aren’t really disputed. Just the motivations and interpretation.

The bakery in question is “Sweet Cakes by Melissa,” sit’iated in Gresham, Oregon, and co-owned by wife and husband Melissa and Aaron Klein. Oregon is a state that has an extensive non-discrimination clause in its public accommodations statute. In particular, this means that if you offer services to the public, you cannot discriminate based on the usual stuff: gender, religion, race, nationality, and … well, sexual orientation (among many other things). Bad news if you don’t like The Gays.

Enter a lesbian couple who asked Melissa to bake them a cake for their wedding. The bakery declined. The couple filed a complaint with the state, and the bakery is under investigation. What made the latest news is that as of August 31 (2013), it had apparently closed.

Previously, Melissa argued that turning away the lesbians was “definitely not discrimination at all. We don’t have anything against lesbians or homosexuals. It has to do with our morals and beliefs. It’s so frustrating because we went through all of this in January, when it all came out.”

Her husband added, “They dropped the ball by not putting in any exemption for religious beliefs” in the public accommodation and non-discrimination statute.

Oppressed Bakery Sign

Oppressed Bakery Sign

A sign was posted in the window of the bakery on August 31: “This fight is not over. We will continue to stand strong. Your Religious Freedom is becoming not Free anymore. This is ridiculous that we can not practice our faith. The LORD is good and we will continue to serve Him with all our heart. ♥”

Before I get into the comments, it bears pointing out that no one told them nor forced them to close. They were not being fined. They were not being censured. So far, all that was happening was the Oregon state Bureau of Labor and Industries (BOLI) was investigating them.

Other than local news sources such as KOIN and KGW, WND linked to the article, the LGBT blog Joe.My.God reported on it, and The Huffington Post also picked it up.

KOIN has accumulated 260 comments as of this writing. The top comment is by “Glogrri,” who with 68 up-votes and 4 down wrote:

Sorry. When you open a business to the general public, you are not free to refuse to sell to people because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, or national origin:

“The Federal Civil Rights Act guarantees all people the right to “full
and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges,
advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation,
without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color,
religion, or national origin.”

“The Professor” added: “Who is saying they cannot practice their faith? Did the government or the couple nail the doors of their church shut? Stop them from praying? Stop them from shouting fa**got if they wanted to? Quoting scripture? NOPE. They merely said you cannot discriminate against anyone if your business is open to the public. Period. No religious freedom was violated here. But apparently the free market is working. They are closing. See ya.”

“E. Mead” tried to act oppressed and got 0 up-votes and 10 down-votes for their opinion:

Freedom of religion is under full scale assault in America. Leftists will continue to target Christians and bring cases like this. They will not be satisfied until they force Christians to violate their beliefs, or put them out of business. If we allow the Left to win this fight, then the First Amendment will be meaningless, and America will no longer be a free nation.

Make no mistake, this is a fight for the very meaning of our country. It’s not about gay, it’s about freedom. ObamaCare’s employer provided birth control and abortion pill mandate is another example of the State forcing people to violate their religious beliefs (or close their business). This no small matter. If we don’t fight this America is lost. And remember, the hate is not coming from Christians, rather the opposite, it is directed at us.

Over at JMG, the comments are what you would expect from a blog that caters to the homosexual community. To quote the top-rated comment, by “NMNative,” with 55 up-votes and 0 down: “No one forced these folks to close. They choose to close rather than serving the GLBT community. Good for them. If they hate gays so much, they should never have opened a “public” place to begin with. Maybe they can open up in the basement of their church and serve the congregation their hate muffins.”

Over at the HuffPo, there are a whopping 4233 comments as of this writing. I’m just going to quote a few of the top-rated ones:

  • “They dropped the ball by not putting in any exemption for religious beliefs.” A bakery is not a church.
  • “We will continue to stand strong. Your Religious Freedom is becoming not Free anymore. This is ridiculous that we can not practice our faith. The LORD is good and we will continue to serve Him with all our heart.” If the practice of your faith hinges on the degradation and humiliation of God’s creations, might I suggest you’ve missed the mark entirely?
  • When the government bars your church doors, then you can say you no longer have freedom of religion. Until that happens, businesses must follow the laws and regulations as described in state law. Allowing discrimination is not freedom of religion, it’s bigotry.
  • This has nothing to do with religious discrimination. The bakery is in violation of public accommodation laws – the same laws that prevent them from discriminating against black Americans. The constant self-victimization of religious zealots has become quite tedious.
  • The baker refused to do a cake for a same-sex wedding but had no problem agreeing to do cakes for an unwed mother, a divorce party and pagan solstice celebration. This isn’t a “deeply held religious belief,” it’s hypocritical bigotry. People like these two give true followed of Christ a bad name.

And then we get to World Net Daily. 322 comments as of now. The top-voted comment is by “Scott Nelson” with 27 up and 0 down: “anybody who demands the freedom to love who they want, marry who they want, then turns around and either by force or by legislation tries to put you out of business or ruin your livelihood because of your religious freedom (as in the ChikFilA protests) is a hypocrite” I’d note that “Scott” clearly did not read the story, as most others have, because no one is forcing these two out of business.

“3rdryder” added (15 up, 0 down):

It is more than just religious freedom under attack here. The business
that close, privately owned businesses, are being abused by laws that violate
there right to choose. The right to determine which customers they serve
as private businesses, and which ones they may refuse service to, based on
their own rights as private businesses to function as THEY choose. If a
business chooses not to serve certain people they should have that right.
If they make a mistake in not serving customers, the customers can choose
not to do business with them.
When it comes to government, government cannot choose, whom it will
serve and, whom it will choose not to serve, because the government belongs
to all the people. Private businesses belong to the people who run them, and should be able to choose the customers they serve.
The laws that force private businesses to serve customers, is illegal, and

To end probably my longest post here to-date, I’ll quote “GTHSBB Momma” who has 17 up and 0 down-votes on her comment: “The comments from the KGW news site were as scary as the actions taken against the bakery itself. These morons seem to think that freedom of religion ends at your private thoughts and cannot impact your actions. They think free markets are free to follow whatever regulatory and statutory burdens are placed on them and you’re “free” to close up shop if you decline to go along with their demands to violate your own ethics. The government schools have done a fine job of dumbing down and misinforming generations of Americans.”

In the end, it’s nice to have a few normal websites and see how most Americans think, in contrast with the craziness at World Net Daily. Every now-and-then, even I need a bit of a sanity check.

Edited (September 4, 2013): JMG has a follow-up where the Kleins gave a defensive interview to a Christian TV station.

Linda Harvey, president of Mission America, for whom Right Wing Watch has nearly 150 articles on describing how LGBT rights oppress parents, anti-discrimination laws create an environment of suspicion and spite, or how gay-inclusive curricula leads to witchcraft and child molestation. World Net Daily chose to publish an article by Linda Harvey entitled, “Christie’s Score: ‘Gay’ Agenda 3, Children 0.” The subtitle is even better: “Exclusive: Linda Harvey chronicles guv’s acquiescence to ‘vicious’ homosexual lobby.”

It’s really only the second paragraph that I want to address here:

Gov. Christie just did their [Garden State Equality] bidding for the third time in affirming anti-child, pro-homosexual actions against minors in New Jersey. He signed A 3371, a bill that bans pro-heterosexual counseling for minor children, alleging that “experts” have made a valid case for keeping some adolescents locked into homosexuality. Any alternative advice is sure to send an adolescent on a course of self-destruction, so the narrative goes.

With the amount of spin there, it’s amazing that she hasn’t separated into a well-stratified mass of goo.

What she’s talking about is that Gov. Christie signed into law a bill (now law) that outlaws reparative therapy. Reparative therapy is incredibly harmful, and many people are pushed or forced into it by even some well-meaning family and friends. After all, it has the word “therapy” in it, so it must be okay, right?

So let’s pick apart her first sentence: “anti-child.” No. No where in that bill does it say something like, “it is now legal to eat persons under the age of 18.”

“Pro-homosexual actions.” No. It’s anti-anti-homosexual actions. In this case, a double-negative does not make a positive.

“Bans pro-heterosexual counseling.” Sorta. Reparative therapy is, as I said, mostly anti-anti-homosexual. It then creates the dichotomy that the only thing you should be is heterosexual, so in a way this is “banning pro-heterosexual counseling,” but only this form. Gender Identity Disorder was at least still a thing in the DSM IV (I haven’t checked V), classified as when a person’s gender identity actually causes them psychological harm or grief. Going to a legitimate therapist for such an issue would be fine under this law.

“Alleging that ‘experts’ have made a valid case.” Yes. Make that the entire (well, ~99%+) body of psychologists.

“Keeping some adolescents locked into homosexuality.” No. It’s an amazing thing that the right-wingers simply must continue to believe, because if they don’t, then everything comes crashing down: Sexuality, to them, must be fluid. These guys and gals must have made a choice to be gay. Ergo, we can train ’em to make a different choice. Straight guys: When did you wake up and decide that you like the vagina? Straight girls: When did you wake up and decide that you like dick? Gay guys: When did you wake up and decide that your life would be so much better if you liked to suck cocks? Gay girls: When did you wake up and decide that your life would be so much better if you liked to have fun with another woman’s va-jay-jay?

And with that, I’m done here. Linda Harvey is a bigot and a horrible human being.

Edited to Add (November 6, 2013): Bob Unruh gleefully writes about Chris Christie being sued by parents who want to foist reparative “therapy” onto their gay son in the article, “Chris Christie Sued for Meddling in Therapy.”

Edited to Add (November 8, 2013): The petition was DENIED. Since I’m pretty sure WND wil not report on this news (since it’s bad for them), I’m posting a link to the JMG blog post about it.

Edited to Add (January 24, 2014): Bob Unruh updates WND readers, making no mention of the November dismissal of a summary judgement, but rather just saying (among a bunch of other drivel) that the case is now “in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.” Story is “Judges Asked to Stop Christie’s Meddling in Therapy.”